<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3787762088895101828.post5813117406226089358..comments</id><updated>2011-06-20T17:24:56.428-04:00</updated><category term='ethics'/><category term='masonry'/><category term='cooking techniques'/><category term='education'/><category term='tools'/><category term='Just Weird'/><category term='salumi'/><category term='news'/><category term='books'/><category term='sauce'/><category term='The Reductionist'/><category term='butchery'/><category term='chefs'/><category term='how to'/><category term='foodways'/><category term='terminology'/><category term='musing'/><category term='molecular gastronomy'/><category term='art'/><category term='hunger'/><category term='food metaphors'/><category term='Food Safety'/><category term='animal rights'/><category term='goofin&apos;'/><category term='Black Box Food'/><category term='travel'/><category term='snacks'/><category term='The Foodist'/><category term='food critics'/><category term='Hunger Art'/><category term='baking'/><category term='drink'/><category term='bread'/><category term='Mike Pardus'/><category term='Guest Post'/><category term='video'/><category term='slow food'/><category term='ethics politics'/><category term='GMO'/><category term='recipes'/><category term='blogs'/><category term='science'/><category term='charcuterie'/><category term='restaurants'/><category term='announcements'/><category term='Food Writing'/><category term='FoodTV'/><category term='food facts'/><category term='product reviews'/><category term='how not to'/><category term='&quot;other&quot; food'/><category term='farming'/><category term='rants'/><category term='notices'/><category term='great food'/><category term='pigs'/><category term='Fatuous Food Writing'/><category term='Confiture'/><category term='diet'/><category term='ingredients'/><category term='farm stuff'/><category term='reader responses'/><category term='opinion'/><category term='eating'/><category term='Pardus'/><category term='gardening'/><category term='religion'/><category term='Ctrl-alt-Del'/><category term='CIA'/><category term='junk food'/><category term='supplies'/><category term='foie-gras'/><category term='stories'/><category term='satire'/><category term='health'/><category term='bad food and cooking'/><category term='sociology'/><title type='text'>Comments on A Hunger Artist: The Difference Between Organic and Conventional Me...</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ahungerartist.bobdelgrosso.com/feeds/5813117406226089358/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3787762088895101828/5813117406226089358/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ahungerartist.bobdelgrosso.com/2011/06/difference-between-organic-and.html'/><author><name>Bob delGrosso</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/117901925720508264226</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh5.googleusercontent.com/-BHbRpKELr3s/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/-RCybAQ5ZNU/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>3</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3787762088895101828.post-1457993021560124019</id><published>2011-06-20T17:24:56.428-04:00</published><updated>2011-06-20T17:24:56.428-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I have begun reading your book over the past weeke...</title><content type='html'>I have begun reading your book over the past weekend.  Needless to say I have found it hard to put down.  &lt;br /&gt;I am a currently a culinary school instructor in Austin (and formerly in Vermont) and I have been struggling with and arguing pro and con for both sides of this issue for years.  I too graduated from culinary school, after having been in the industry for ten years and almost eight years after having gotten a bachelors degree in hospitality management.&lt;br /&gt;I have had to deal with both sides: young self-taught cooks, and fresh faces straight from school.  Both can be rewarding, and both can be as frustrating.  &lt;br /&gt;My arguments for culinary school have always been that culinary school can allow you the opportunity to get a broad base of basics quicker than if you spent time moving from kitchen to kitchen and from position to position.  The key to this is that culinary school allows you the access to the education.  What you take away from school will be entirely up to the individual.  What I am finding is that there are more students going to culinary school these days with no experience or expectations or even motivation than there are students who have the initiative to succeed there.  &lt;br /&gt;In your book, you talk of how you spent hours in the library each day pouring over the books available, and working to succeed in every way possible.  If only I had students like you.  My current class consists of several career changers, six students fresh from high school, and several dilettantes who have no idea who Thomas Keller is, let alone Escoffier or Careme.  And what’s worse is that for some reason, they don’t really want to find out about what they don’t know.&lt;br /&gt;I have been struggling with this for weeks now as I see myself getting more and more frustrated with how the students’ attitudes towards cooking and food are nowhere near what I have experienced previously with new students or with new line cooks.&lt;br /&gt;In fact, I have had unschooled line cooks who are more ‘foodie’, more motivated to learn, more focused than any of the students I have right now.  (Not that I haven’t had my share of stoner, alcoholic, party all the time, Bourdainesque line cooks).  Its just that I have tried to hire for motivation, not necessarily skill level.&lt;br /&gt;Last night I read through the chapter where you talk about your fish chef  and how even though he motivated with fear, he got you to want to learn.  I personally would like to become someone like that.&lt;br /&gt;On the flipside, my argument against culinary school has always been two fold.  One, the money.  From the inside, it is easy to see how monetarily focused the education business is.  And it is not sustainable in its current form.  Due to the education reform act recently passed, things are getting better, but not necessarily for the student or their future career.  Number two is this, if you just go to class and don’t put in the work, then you are just wasting the time, and summarily the money you have spent.  You have to be focused and milk the school, the educators, and the experience, for all it is worth.  &lt;br /&gt;You get out what you put in to it…ultimately.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3787762088895101828/5813117406226089358/comments/default/1457993021560124019'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3787762088895101828/5813117406226089358/comments/default/1457993021560124019'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ahungerartist.bobdelgrosso.com/2011/06/difference-between-organic-and.html?showComment=1308605096428#c1457993021560124019' title=''/><author><name>chef</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06338657204368062624</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ahungerartist.bobdelgrosso.com/2011/06/difference-between-organic-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3787762088895101828.post-5813117406226089358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3787762088895101828/posts/default/5813117406226089358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-637197845'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3787762088895101828.post-2952730213893794591</id><published>2011-06-07T15:48:21.388-04:00</published><updated>2011-06-07T15:48:21.388-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The amount and quality of the fat in pasture raise...</title><content type='html'>The amount and quality of the fat in pasture raised meats certainly, and obviously, varies enormously with the quantity and quality of the pasture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As restaurants and cooks continue to demand pasture raised meats, some farmers will become more skilled at increasing the marbling chefs in particular seek. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The italicized preface to the study summary is pointing at that same reality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The summary isn&amp;#39;t making a careless generalization but a broad  characterization of the data reviewed -- the overall situation with grass-fed meat right now. Which seems to be in a pretty good place: tastier and healthier than industrially raised meat.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[side note to the study summary: PUFAs are poly-unsaturated fatty acids; CLA: conjugated linoleic acid.]</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3787762088895101828/5813117406226089358/comments/default/2952730213893794591'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3787762088895101828/5813117406226089358/comments/default/2952730213893794591'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ahungerartist.bobdelgrosso.com/2011/06/difference-between-organic-and.html?showComment=1307476101388#c2952730213893794591' title=''/><author><name>Nell</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01969732734453586544</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ahungerartist.bobdelgrosso.com/2011/06/difference-between-organic-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3787762088895101828.post-5813117406226089358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3787762088895101828/posts/default/5813117406226089358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-2121447495'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3787762088895101828.post-540558891449502854</id><published>2011-06-05T23:26:07.334-04:00</published><updated>2011-06-05T23:26:07.334-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Please view this for a more accurate depiction of ...</title><content type='html'>Please view this for a more accurate depiction of grass fed. I&amp;#39;m tired of the generalizations made about grass fed.&lt;br /&gt;http://butcherinfoblog.blogspot.com/2011/06/grass-fed-fat.html</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3787762088895101828/5813117406226089358/comments/default/540558891449502854'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3787762088895101828/5813117406226089358/comments/default/540558891449502854'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ahungerartist.bobdelgrosso.com/2011/06/difference-between-organic-and.html?showComment=1307330767334#c540558891449502854' title=''/><author><name>Chef Schneller</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03885531053402599697</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_soL_PjvahaI/SfxPmti4gxI/AAAAAAAAABA/S2RqcwOAYo4/S220/schneller.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ahungerartist.bobdelgrosso.com/2011/06/difference-between-organic-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3787762088895101828.post-5813117406226089358' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3787762088895101828/posts/default/5813117406226089358' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1546069356'/></entry></feed>
